{"id":59908,"date":"2025-12-26T15:11:09","date_gmt":"2025-12-26T15:11:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.threatshub.org\/blog\/from-video-games-to-cyber-defense-if-you-dont-think-like-a-hacker-you-wont-win\/"},"modified":"2025-12-26T15:11:09","modified_gmt":"2025-12-26T15:11:09","slug":"from-video-games-to-cyber-defense-if-you-dont-think-like-a-hacker-you-wont-win","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.threatshub.org\/blog\/from-video-games-to-cyber-defense-if-you-dont-think-like-a-hacker-you-wont-win\/","title":{"rendered":"From video games to cyber defense: If you don&#8217;t think like a hacker, you won&#8217;t win"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span class=\"label\">interview<\/span> According to Remedio CEO Tal Kollender, the only way to beat the bad guys hacking into corporate networks is to &#8220;think like a hacker,&#8221; and because not everyone is a teenage hacker turned cybersecurity startup chief executive, she built an AI to do this.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;My thought was: if I have a hacker mindset, why not adapt it into defense,&#8221; Kollender told <em>The Register<\/em>. &#8220;Because if you don&#8217;t think like a hacker, you won&#8217;t be able to beat them, right?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>We sat down (virtually) with Kollender to discuss her former life hacking video games and how that led her to start Remedio (formerly Gytpol). The startup recently raised $65 million in its first-ever funding round on a $300 million valuation, and its clients include household names Colgate-Palmolive and Kraft Heinz.<\/p>\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"adun\" data-pos=\"top\" data-raptor=\"condor\" data-xsm=\",fluid,mpu,dmpu,\" data-sm=\",fluid,mpu,dmpu,\" data-md=\",fluid,mpu,dmpu,\"> <noscript> <a href=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/jump?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_security\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=2&amp;c=2aU-cFeu8u7GE0W3jRm8npgAAAZQ&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0\" target=\"_blank\"> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ad?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_security\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=2&amp;c=2aU-cFeu8u7GE0W3jRm8npgAAAZQ&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0\" alt> <\/a> <\/noscript> <\/div>\n<p>&#8220;Curiosity is the name of the game,&#8221; she said. &#8220;I was always curious. What brought me to what I do now is solving some problems from a different angle.&#8221;<\/p>\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"adun\" data-pos=\"top\" data-raptor=\"falcon\" data-xmd=\",fluid,mpu,leaderboard,\" data-lg=\",fluid,mpu,leaderboard,\" data-xlg=\",fluid,billboard,superleaderboard,mpu,leaderboard,\" data-xxlg=\",fluid,billboard,superleaderboard,brandwidth,brandimpact,leaderboard,mpu,\"> <noscript> <a href=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/jump?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_security\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=4&amp;c=44aU-cFeu8u7GE0W3jRm8npgAAAZQ&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" target=\"_blank\"> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ad?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_security\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=4&amp;c=44aU-cFeu8u7GE0W3jRm8npgAAAZQ&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D426raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" alt> <\/a> <\/noscript> <\/div>\n<div class=\"adun_eagle_desktop_story_wrapper\">\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"adun\" data-pos=\"mid\" data-raptor=\"eagle\" data-xxlg=\",mpu,dmpu,\"> <noscript> <a href=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/jump?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_security\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=3&amp;c=33aU-cFeu8u7GE0W3jRm8npgAAAZQ&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" target=\"_blank\"> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ad?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_security\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=3&amp;c=33aU-cFeu8u7GE0W3jRm8npgAAAZQ&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" alt> <\/a> <\/noscript> <\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p>For example: one plus one equals two. &#8220;But in order to get to two, you don&#8217;t really need one plus one,&#8221; Kollender said. &#8220;There are other ways &#8211; two plus zero minus two plus four. There are various options to get to the results.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Her first lesson in this came from an Israeli online game that Kollender describes as a cross between Tetris and Icy Tower. She had been ranked No. 1, and then overnight, an unknown player beat her. &#8220;I was pretty jealous and upset, and at the same time I said, &#8216;there&#8217;s no way someone can beat me because I&#8217;m the best.'&#8221;<\/p>\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"adun\" data-pos=\"top\" data-raptor=\"falcon\" data-xsm=\",fluid,mpu,dmpu,\" data-sm=\",fluid,mpu,dmpu,\" data-md=\",fluid,mpu,dmpu,\"> <noscript> <a href=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/jump?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_security\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=4&amp;c=44aU-cFeu8u7GE0W3jRm8npgAAAZQ&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" target=\"_blank\"> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ad?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_security\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=4&amp;c=44aU-cFeu8u7GE0W3jRm8npgAAAZQ&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D426raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" alt> <\/a> <\/noscript> <\/div>\n<p>The other player&#8217;s &#8220;impossible&#8221; score led her to figure out how to hack into the game&#8217;s database and write her own impossible score, before moving on to hacking Sony PlayStation games, chat apps, and phones.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Later, while serving in the Israeli Air Force and training to become a fighter pilot, the Israel Defense Forces reassigned her to the IT Corp Cyber Security-Systems Division.<\/p>\n<p>On the defender side and in the private sector, Kollender previously worked as a system security architect at Dell EMC before starting her own company with co-founders Gilad Raz and Yakov Kogan in 2019.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We wanted to change the way companies fix things, without any business disruption,&#8221; she said. To this end, Remedio uses AI to find and auto-remediate vulnerabilities, misconfigurations, weak controls, compliance gaps, and other security threats across corporate devices.<\/p>\n<p>As criminals increasingly use AI to do these same things &#8211; scan for vulnerabilities, missing patches, and misconfigurations &#8211; it becomes a battle of AI versus AI, and a <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2025\/12\/22\/zafran_security_ceo\/\">race between defenders and attackers<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"adun\" id=\"story_eagle_xsm_sm_md_xmd_lg_xlg\" data-pos=\"mid\" data-raptor=\"eagle\" data-xsm=\",mpu,dmpu,\" data-sm=\",mpu,dmpu,\" data-md=\",mpu,dmpu,\" data-xmd=\",mpu,dmpu,\" data-lg=\",mpu,dmpu,\" data-xlg=\",mpu,dmpu,\"> <noscript> <a href=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/jump?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_security\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=3&amp;c=33aU-cFeu8u7GE0W3jRm8npgAAAZQ&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" target=\"_blank\"> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ad?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_security\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=3&amp;c=33aU-cFeu8u7GE0W3jRm8npgAAAZQ&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" alt> <\/a> <\/noscript> <\/div>\n<p>Digital intruders used to break into networks and spend months snooping around, searching for credentials to allow lateral movement and steal valuable data. &#8220;Now, they do it in weeks or days. That&#8217;s how fast AI has made things,&#8221; Kollender said. &#8220;And if defenders don&#8217;t keep up the pace and grow&#8221; their own usage of the technology, &#8220;then the attackers might beat us.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>As several former teenage hackers found out in their formative years, Kollender refuses to get beat at her own game, whether that&#8217;s a video game or cyber defense. \u00ae<\/p>\n<p> READ MORE <a href=\"https:\/\/go.theregister.com\/feed\/www.theregister.com\/2025\/12\/26\/video_game_hacker_turned_ceo\/\">HERE<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In supercharged AI race, defenders need to keep up interview\u00a0 According to Remedio CEO Tal Kollender, the only way to beat the bad guys hacking into corporate networks is to &#8220;think like a hacker,&#8221; and because not everyone is a teenage hacker turned cybersecurity startup chief executive, she built an AI to do this.\u2026 READ MORE 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