{"id":57688,"date":"2024-11-16T10:12:14","date_gmt":"2024-11-16T10:12:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.threatshub.org\/blog\/rust-haters-unite-fil-c-aims-to-make-c-great-again\/"},"modified":"2024-11-16T10:12:14","modified_gmt":"2024-11-16T10:12:14","slug":"rust-haters-unite-fil-c-aims-to-make-c-great-again","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.threatshub.org\/blog\/rust-haters-unite-fil-c-aims-to-make-c-great-again\/","title":{"rendered":"Rust haters, unite! Fil-C aims to Make C Great Again"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Developers looking to continue working in the C and C++ programming languages amid the global push to promote memory-safe programming now have another option that doesn&#8217;t involve learning Rust.<\/p>\n<p>Filip Pizlo, senior director of language engineering at Epic Games, has created his own memory-safe flavor of C and \u2013 because why not? \u2013 named it after himself.<\/p>\n<p>Pizlo got in touch after seeing our <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2024\/11\/12\/trapc_memory_safe_fork\/\" rel=\"noopener\">report on TrapC<\/a> \u2013 a memory-safe C-fork due for release next year.<\/p>\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"adun\" data-pos=\"top\" data-raptor=\"condor\" data-xsm=\",fluid,mpu,\" data-sm=\",fluid,mpu,\" data-md=\",fluid,mpu,\"> <noscript> <a href=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/jump?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_software\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=2&amp;c=2ZzkWfC-jTrItZJGSOCNiMwAAAAw&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ad?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_software\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=2&amp;c=2ZzkWfC-jTrItZJGSOCNiMwAAAAw&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0\" alt> <\/a> <\/noscript> <\/div>\n<p>&#8220;I wanted to alert you to the existence of <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/pizlonator\/llvm-project-deluge\/blob\/deluge\/Manifesto.md\">Fil-C<\/a>, a personal project of mine, which exists today, does just about everything TrapC claims to do (including being totally memory-safe), and is freely available,&#8221; Pizlo explained. &#8220;It aims for 100 percent compatibility with C and C++ \u2013 just compile your stuff with my compiler and you get memory safety.&#8221;<\/p>\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"adun\" data-pos=\"top\" data-raptor=\"falcon\" data-xmd=\",fluid,mpu,leaderboard,\" data-lg=\",fluid,mpu,leaderboard,\" data-xlg=\",fluid,billboard,superleaderboard,mpu,leaderboard,\" data-xxlg=\",fluid,billboard,superleaderboard,brandwidth,brandimpact,leaderboard,mpu,\"> <noscript> <a href=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/jump?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_software\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=4&amp;c=44ZzkWfC-jTrItZJGSOCNiMwAAAAw&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ad?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_software\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=4&amp;c=44ZzkWfC-jTrItZJGSOCNiMwAAAAw&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D426raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" alt> <\/a> <\/noscript> <\/div>\n<div class=\"adun_eagle_desktop_story_wrapper\">\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"adun\" data-pos=\"mid\" data-raptor=\"eagle\" data-xxlg=\",mpu,dmpu,\"> <noscript> <a href=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/jump?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_software\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=3&amp;c=33ZzkWfC-jTrItZJGSOCNiMwAAAAw&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ad?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_software\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=3&amp;c=33ZzkWfC-jTrItZJGSOCNiMwAAAAw&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" alt> <\/a> <\/noscript> <\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The US government and other interested parties are rather keen to encourage memory safety \u2013 something not available out of the box for C and C++ code. C and C++ require manual memory management, which has been shown to be inadequate for preventing memory safety bugs like out of bounds reads and writes.<\/p>\n<p>Since the majority of serious vulnerabilities in large codebases can be attributed to memory safety failings, the common refrain over the past few years has been to develop in a programming language like Rust that (optionally) produces memory-safe code. And more recently there have been efforts to <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.memorysafety.org\/docs\/memory-safety\/\">rewrite legacy code<\/a> in critical libraries and applications using Rust.<\/p>\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"adun\" data-pos=\"top\" data-raptor=\"falcon\" data-xsm=\",fluid,mpu,\" data-sm=\",fluid,mpu,\" data-md=\",fluid,mpu,\"> <noscript> <a href=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/jump?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_software\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=4&amp;c=44ZzkWfC-jTrItZJGSOCNiMwAAAAw&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ad?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_software\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=4&amp;c=44ZzkWfC-jTrItZJGSOCNiMwAAAAw&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D426raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" alt> <\/a> <\/noscript> <\/div>\n<p>There are many other memory-safe languages \u2013 such as C#, Java, Python, Swift, Go, and JavaScript. But Rust, for better or worse, has become the most commonly cited option in memory safety evangelism because it&#8217;s fast, suited for low-level code, and does a lot of things well (safe concurrency and a well-conceived package management system). What&#8217;s more, the non-profit Rust Foundation has been run well enough to attract funding and support from the tech firms likely to be interested in Rust&#8217;s qualities.<\/p>\n<p>Also, Rust came out of Mozilla, which isn&#8217;t seen by the major tech platforms \u2013 several of which have their own home-grown programming languages \u2013 as a competitor. Consider that Rust debuted in late 2013 and Apple&#8217;s Swift arrived a year later \u2013 during that period, Rust has attracted a broad constituency, while Swift is mainly used by Apple-aligned developers.<\/p>\n<p>But the thing about Rust is that it&#8217;s <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/vorner.github.io\/difficult.html\">not all that easy to learn<\/a>. So calls to rewrite everything in Rust have elicited pushback from those with significant C or C++ experience \u2013 like Linux kernel maintainers, who would prefer to continue working in languages they&#8217;ve mastered.<\/p>\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"adun\" id=\"story_eagle_xsm_sm_md_xmd_lg_xlg\" data-pos=\"mid\" data-raptor=\"eagle\" data-xsm=\",mpu,dmpu,\" data-sm=\",mpu,dmpu,\" data-md=\",mpu,dmpu,\" data-xmd=\",mpu,dmpu,\" data-lg=\",mpu,dmpu,\" data-xlg=\",mpu,dmpu,\"> <noscript> <a href=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/jump?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_software\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=3&amp;c=33ZzkWfC-jTrItZJGSOCNiMwAAAAw&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ad?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_software\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=3&amp;c=33ZzkWfC-jTrItZJGSOCNiMwAAAAw&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" alt> <\/a> <\/noscript> <\/div>\n<p>Like the forthcoming TrapC fork and the <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.com\/2024\/09\/16\/safe_c_plusplus\/\" rel=\"noopener\">Safe C++<\/a> project, Fil-C aims to support memory safety without requiring reeducation in another programming language.<\/p>\n<p>Pizlo, who introduced Fil-C at the <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/live\/_VF3pISRYRc?t=4862s\">Splash 2024 conference<\/a> [VIDEO] last month, explains his motivation in the project repo.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"pullquote\" readability=\"7\">\n<p>In my spare time, I decided to make my own memory-safe C and C++. This is a personal project and an expression of my love for C<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>&#8220;The C and C++ programming languages are wonderful,&#8221; he said. &#8220;There is a ton of amazing code written in both of them. But C and C++ are unsafe languages. Simple logic errors may result in an attacker controlling where a pointer points and what is written into it, which leads to an easy path to exploitation. Lots of other languages (Rust, Java, Haskell, even JavaScript) don&#8217;t have this problem!<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;But I love C. And I love C++ almost as much. I grew up on them. It&#8217;s such a joy for me to use both of them! Therefore, in my spare time, I decided to make my own memory-safe C and C++. This is a personal project and an expression of my love for C.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Epic Games owns the copyright for Fil-C but, according to Pizlo, all its components are permissively licensed open source \u2013 the compiler bits are Apache2 and the runtime bits are BSD.<\/p>\n<p>Fil-C has some limitations. Presently, it only works on Linux\/x86_64. Also, it&#8217;s slow \u2013 about 1.5x-5x slower than legacy C. That&#8217;s in part because of its implementation of a pointer encoding method for tracking bounds and types called MonoCaps, and also overhead from calling conventions and dynamic linking that differ from standard C.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The plan to make Fil-C fast is to fix these issues,&#8221; explains Pizlo. &#8220;I believe that fixing these issues can get Fil-C to be only 1.5x slower than C <em>in the worst cases<\/em>, with lots of programs being only 1.2x slower. But it&#8217;ll take some focused compiler\/runtime\/GC hacking to get there.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Fil-C also isn&#8217;t aiming for full Application Binary Interface (ABI) compatibility with what Pizlo calls &#8220;Yolo-C\/C++&#8221; \u2013 normal C\/C++.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;If I had ABI compatibility with [Yolo-C\/C++] then it would incentivize me and other users to say, &#8216;okay I&#8217;m going to recompile this file with Fil-C, link it to a whole bunch of files that are normal C because I don&#8217;t want to be bothered with porting them, and then what you&#8217;ll get as a result is a program that is not memory-safe,&#8221; he <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/live\/_VF3pISRYRc?feature=shared&amp;t=5743\">explains<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"pullquote\" readability=\"5\">\n<p>Part of the reason why I&#8217;m doing this is I want to obviate the need for Rust<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Presently, some C programs can be compiled with Fil-C without any changes, including bzip2, zip, pcre, and ncurses. Other code \u2013 such as CPython, SQLite, Lua, OpenSSH, Lynx, libc++abi\/libc++, jpeg6b, zsh, musl, xzutils, and simdutf \u2013 will work with small changes.<\/p>\n<p>Pizlo observes in his presentation that while there have been substantially successful attempts to make C code memory-safe \u2013 such as <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/checkedc\/checkedc\">CheckedC<\/a> and <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/clang.llvm.org\/docs\/BoundsSafety.html\">-fbounds-safety<\/a> \u2013 many of these fall short in one way or another, particularly for certain edge cases.<\/p>\n<p>His goal, he says, is to support garbage in, and memory safety out.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Part of the reason why I&#8217;m doing this is I want to obviate the need for Rust,&#8221; <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/live\/_VF3pISRYRc?feature=shared&amp;t=7524\">declares<\/a> Pizlo. &#8220;I&#8217;m not there yet performance-wise, but I will get there.&#8221; \u00ae<\/p>\n<p> READ MORE <a href=\"https:\/\/go.theregister.com\/feed\/www.theregister.com\/2024\/11\/16\/rusthaters_unite_filc\/\">HERE<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>It&#8217;s memory-safe, with a few caveats Developers looking to continue working in the C and C++ programming languages amid the global push to promote memory-safe programming now have another option that doesn&#8217;t involve learning Rust.\u2026 READ MORE HERE&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"colormag_page_layout":"default_layout","footnotes":""},"categories":[63],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-57688","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-the-register"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.6 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Rust haters, unite! 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