{"id":57115,"date":"2024-09-17T04:29:09","date_gmt":"2024-09-17T04:29:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.threatshub.org\/blog\/china-claims-starlink-signals-can-reveal-stealth-aircraft-and-what-that-really-means\/"},"modified":"2024-09-17T04:29:09","modified_gmt":"2024-09-17T04:29:09","slug":"china-claims-starlink-signals-can-reveal-stealth-aircraft-and-what-that-really-means","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.threatshub.org\/blog\/china-claims-starlink-signals-can-reveal-stealth-aircraft-and-what-that-really-means\/","title":{"rendered":"China claims Starlink signals can reveal stealth aircraft \u2013 and what that really means"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>According to a Chinese state-sanctioned study, signals from SpaceX Starlink broadband internet satellites could be used to track US stealth fighters, such as the F-22.<\/p>\n<p>They can claim that all they want but the reality is: It&#8217;s not that useful militarily, and if it were, Beijing almost certainly wouldn&#8217;t let anyone blab about it.<\/p>\n<p>The research details how the academics were able to recognize the rough location of a commercial drone by observing disturbances in electromagnetic signals from Starlink satellites caused by aircraft passing through them. The system could &#8220;provide significant advantages in detecting small and stealth targets,&#8221; the team claimed.<\/p>\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"adun\" data-pos=\"top\" data-raptor=\"condor\" data-xsm=\",fluid,mpu,\" data-sm=\",fluid,mpu,\" data-md=\",fluid,mpu,\"> <noscript> <a href=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/jump?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_security\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=2&amp;c=2Zulo252k44SJUfdyObuyZgAAAhE&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ad?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_security\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=2&amp;c=2Zulo252k44SJUfdyObuyZgAAAhE&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0\" alt> <\/a> <\/noscript> <\/div>\n<p>The academics, led by professor Yi Jianxin from Wuhan University&#8217;s School of Electronic Information, <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/scmp.com\/news\/china\/science\/article\/3278209\/starlink-radiation-makes-stealth-target-glow-chinese-radar\">launched<\/a> [paywall] a commercial DJI Phantom 4 Pro drone and sent it over the coast near the Chinese city of Guangdong. The researchers chose the drone as they estimated it has the same radar signature as a modern F-22 fighter.<\/p>\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"adun\" data-pos=\"top\" data-raptor=\"falcon\" data-xmd=\",fluid,mpu,leaderboard,\" data-lg=\",fluid,mpu,leaderboard,\" data-xlg=\",fluid,billboard,superleaderboard,mpu,leaderboard,\" data-xxlg=\",fluid,billboard,superleaderboard,brandwidth,brandimpact,leaderboard,mpu,\"> <noscript> <a href=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/jump?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_security\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=4&amp;c=44Zulo252k44SJUfdyObuyZgAAAhE&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ad?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_security\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=4&amp;c=44Zulo252k44SJUfdyObuyZgAAAhE&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D426raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" alt> <\/a> <\/noscript> <\/div>\n<div class=\"adun_eagle_desktop_story_wrapper\">\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"adun\" data-pos=\"mid\" data-raptor=\"eagle\" data-xxlg=\",mpu,dmpu,\"> <noscript> <a href=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/jump?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_security\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=3&amp;c=33Zulo252k44SJUfdyObuyZgAAAhE&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ad?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_security\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=3&amp;c=33Zulo252k44SJUfdyObuyZgAAAhE&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" alt> <\/a> <\/noscript> <\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<p>They reported being able to detect up the drone \u2013 not by hammering it with easily identifiable radar pulses (which would invite a counterattack in a war situation) but by identifying where the drone reflected the signals from a Starlink satellite orbiting overhead. The test was overseen by the Chinese government&#8217;s State Radio Monitoring Centre.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;By using third-party radiation sources, radar systems can have enhanced concealment and anti-jamming capabilities,&#8221; Yi and his team wrote.<\/p>\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"adun\" data-pos=\"top\" data-raptor=\"falcon\" data-xsm=\",fluid,mpu,\" data-sm=\",fluid,mpu,\" data-md=\",fluid,mpu,\"> <noscript> <a href=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/jump?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_security\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=4&amp;c=44Zulo252k44SJUfdyObuyZgAAAhE&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ad?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_security\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=4&amp;c=44Zulo252k44SJUfdyObuyZgAAAhE&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D426raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" alt> <\/a> <\/noscript> <\/div>\n<p>Before people panic, this isn&#8217;t exactly new technology \u2013 other than in the use of Starlink satellites to spot a target. Passive radar systems like this have been in use since the Second World War with the German Klein Heidelberg system, and today some radio enthusiasts are expert at getting a return from passing objects just by monitoring signal disruption \u2013 or scatter, as it&#8217;s known.<\/p>\n<p>But the Chinese suggested that Starlink would give them much more potential scatter to spot, and that modern chips and software will make interpreting the signals easier.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Low-orbit satellite signals have the advantages of [being] all-weather, cross-regional and low-cost, which can be perfectly combined with covert forward scatter radars,&#8221; the team wrote.<\/p>\n<p>The academics suggested they could build a Starlink antenna relatively cheaply and use this on a directional base to follow aircraft using custom-designed signal processing software and &#8220;an undisclosed high-performance chip.&#8221; Quite how well that would work with an emission-absorbent stealth aircraft \u2013 as opposed to an off-the-shelf commercial drone \u2013 remains to be seen.<\/p>\n<p>Even if the rough position of a high-speed F-22 might be deduced, you still have to get high-precision information on its rapidly changing location for a weapon to lock onto it. It&#8217;s a similar conundrum to knowing there&#8217;s a mosquito in the bedroom at night and actually being able to swat it.<\/p>\n<div aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"adun\" id=\"story_eagle_xsm_sm_md_xmd_lg_xlg\" data-pos=\"mid\" data-raptor=\"eagle\" data-xsm=\",mpu,dmpu,\" data-sm=\",mpu,dmpu,\" data-md=\",mpu,dmpu,\" data-xmd=\",mpu,dmpu,\" data-lg=\",mpu,dmpu,\" data-xlg=\",mpu,dmpu,\"> <noscript> <a href=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/jump?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_security\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=3&amp;c=33Zulo252k44SJUfdyObuyZgAAAhE&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/pubads.g.doubleclick.net\/gampad\/ad?co=1&amp;iu=\/6978\/reg_security\/front&amp;sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&amp;tile=3&amp;c=33Zulo252k44SJUfdyObuyZgAAAhE&amp;t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0\" alt> <\/a> <\/noscript> <\/div>\n<p>Given the limitations of the exercise, Yi admitted that the &#8220;feasibility and effectiveness&#8221; of the system for military use was still in question but said it could form the basis of further research. Color us extremely skeptical.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s convenient for China to put this info about \u2013 if only to spread a bit of mischief. \u00ae<\/p>\n<p> READ MORE <a href=\"https:\/\/go.theregister.com\/feed\/www.theregister.com\/2024\/09\/17\/china_starlink_stealth\/\">HERE<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If this really was that useful, they wouldn&#8217;t be telling us According to a Chinese state-sanctioned study, signals from SpaceX Starlink broadband internet satellites could be used to track US stealth fighters, such as the F-22.\u2026  READ MORE HERE&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"colormag_page_layout":"default_layout","footnotes":""},"categories":[63],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-57115","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-the-register"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized 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