{"id":53441,"date":"2023-08-29T15:41:14","date_gmt":"2023-08-29T15:41:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/packetstormsecurity.com\/news\/view\/34953\/Cybersecurity-Experts-Say-The-West-Has-Failed-To-Learn-Lessons-From-Ukraine.html"},"modified":"2023-08-29T15:41:14","modified_gmt":"2023-08-29T15:41:14","slug":"cybersecurity-experts-say-the-west-has-failed-to-learn-lessons-from-ukraine","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.threatshub.org\/blog\/cybersecurity-experts-say-the-west-has-failed-to-learn-lessons-from-ukraine\/","title":{"rendered":"Cybersecurity Experts Say The West Has Failed To Learn Lessons From Ukraine"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure class=\"intro-image intro-left\"> <img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.arstechnica.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/black-hat-uk-list-800x450.jpg\" alt=\"Viktor Zhora speaking\"><figcaption class=\"caption\">\n<div class=\"caption-text\"><a href=\"https:\/\/cdn.arstechnica.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/black-hat-uk-list.jpg\" class=\"enlarge-link\" data-height=\"787\" data-width=\"1400\">Enlarge<\/a> <span class=\"sep\">\/<\/span> Viktor Zhora from Ukraine\u2019s information protection service, says cyber has become a major component of hybrid warfare.<\/div>\n<div class=\"caption-credit\">Dragonflypd.com\/Black Hat<\/div>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<aside id=\"social-left\" class=\"social-left\" aria-label=\"Read the comments or share this article\"> <a class=\"comment-count icon-comment-bubble-down\" href=\"https:\/\/arstechnica.com\/security\/2023\/08\/cybersecurity-experts-say-the-west-has-failed-to-learn-lessons-from-ukraine\/?comments=1\"> <\/p>\n<h4 class=\"comment-count-before\">reader comments<\/h4>\n<p> <span class=\"comment-count-number\">38<\/span> <span class=\"visually-hidden\"> with <\/span> <\/a> <\/aside>\n<p> <!-- cache hit 410:single\/related:7e1524ff0b2bff0dba1b61bad7b1d0f2 --><!-- empty --><\/p>\n<p>Viktor Zhora, the public face of Ukraine\u2019s success against Russian cyberattacks, received a hero\u2019s welcome earlier this month on stage at Black Hat, the world\u2019s biggest cybersecurity gathering, in Las Vegas.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe adversary has trained us a lot since 2014,\u201d the year that Russia annexed Crimea, said the deputy chair at Ukraine\u2019s special communication and information protection service. \u201cWe evolved by the time of the full-scale invasion [in February last year] when cyber became a major component of hybrid warfare.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>At an event where IT professionals asked for selfies and one man cried on his shoulder, Zhora also shared a fist-bump with Jen Easterly, the director of the US Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Agency. \u201cWe take a huge page out of Ukraine\u2019s playbook,\u201d she said. \u201cWe\u2019ve probably learned as much from you as you are learning from us.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But away from the spotlight, the event\u2019s delegates argued that the US and its allies that have helped to fund Ukraine\u2019s cyber-defenses have failed to reflect on Kyiv\u2019s experience.<\/p>\n<p>Cyber executives told the Financial Times that the West is struggling to replicate the collaborative methods that had proved successful in the conflict, complaining they are instead mired in regulatory and legal roadblocks that thwart fast-moving responses that require open sharing of often sensitive or embarrassing information.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere is a reality that exists in Ukraine that I don\u2019t think most of the West can really put themselves in,\u201d said Matt Olney, director of threat intelligence and interdiction for Cisco Systems.<\/p>\n<aside class=\"ad_wrapper\" aria-label=\"In Content advertisement\"> <span class=\"ad_notice\">Advertisement <\/span> <\/aside>\n<p>Olney recounted a time when Cisco, which has been involved in Ukraine for more than a decade, sparked confusion and outrage from US authorities with a proposal for a radical security upgrade to a state\u2019s election system.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThis is war,\u201d Olney\u2019s Ukrainian colleague explained to the state official when asked how Kyiv would respond to such demands. \u201cI say do it, and they do it.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The US and its allies in Europe and Asia are already engaged in low-level cyber aggression and espionage against Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea. Despite attempts to block them, Russian and Chinese government-backed hackers regularly break into Western systems, carrying out disinformation and spying campaigns.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"image shortcode-img center large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/cdn.arstechnica.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/easterly.jpg\" class=\"enlarge\" data-height=\"933\" data-width=\"1400\" alt=\"Jen Easterly, director of the US Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Agency, says, &quot;We take a huge page out of Ukraine\u2019s playbook.&quot;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Jen Easterly, director of the US Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Agency, says, &quot;We take a huge page out of Ukraine\u2019s playbook.&quot;\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.arstechnica.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/easterly-640x427.jpg\" width=\"640\" height=\"427\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.arstechnica.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/easterly-1280x853.jpg 2x\"><\/a><figcaption class=\"caption\">\n<div class=\"caption-text\"><a href=\"https:\/\/cdn.arstechnica.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/easterly.jpg\" class=\"enlarge-link\" data-height=\"933\" data-width=\"1400\">Enlarge<\/a> <span class=\"sep\">\/<\/span> Jen Easterly, director of the US Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Agency, says, &#8220;We take a huge page out of Ukraine\u2019s playbook.&#8221;<\/div>\n<div class=\"caption-credit\">Dragonflypd.com\/Black Hat<\/div>\n<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Last month when the State Department discovered that emails of officials focused on China had been hacked, authorities claimed they had received inadequate information. This prompted Oregon Senator Ron Wyden to request federal probes to push Microsoft, which runs the State Department\u2019s emails, to share more technical data behind the breach.<\/p>\n<p>Similarly, authorities in the UK took 10 months to inform millions of its citizens on the electoral register that their data had been exposed to a group of as-yet unidentified hackers that could have been working on behalf of another country.<\/p>\n<p>Olney and others say that, when these breaches are uncovered, the targeted businesses and government agencies are slow to share that information, including critical technical data that would unmask similar hacking attempts elsewhere.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019m in favor of radical transparency,\u201d said John Shier, a senior executive at Sophos, the UK-based cybersecurity company. \u201cThat\u2019s when we can be more proactive. That\u2019s when we can make sure we know somebody else is going through the same thing that you\u2019re going through, and you can band together and make sure that you both get through as unscathed as possible.\u201d<\/p>\n<aside class=\"ad_wrapper\" aria-label=\"In Content advertisement\"> <span class=\"ad_notice\">Advertisement <\/span> <\/aside>\n<p>One stumbling block is the US government\u2019s categorization of certain details as classified. Robert Lee, who runs cybersecurity company Dragos, said he has been involved in cases that were not immediately disclosed because the information was classified.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere\u2019s some truth,\u201d he added, in the \u201cidea that asset owners and operators are just keeping it quiet.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Another problem is the reluctance of listed companies to disclose potentially damaging information for fear of the impact on their share price, which has prompted the US to work on legislation to deal with the issue. The Chamber of Commerce is disputing new rules from the Stock Exchange Commission that will require publicly traded firms to disclose material breaches within four days.<\/p>\n<p>Several agencies meanwhile have overlapping authority, \u201ccreating chaos\u201d rather than being disciplined, said Lee.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYou\u2019ve got the FBI and DHS and CISA tripping over each other yelling at each other,\u201d said Lee. \u201cAnd the inter-agency [fights] behind the scenes [are] about 10,000 times worse than whatever gets made public.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>At a bar at the conference, an official from the US defense department pulled up a chair to a group of cybersecurity professionals and asked why the US has not been hit with complex, simultaneous attacks.<\/p>\n<p>The official replied to his own question: \u201cDeterrence as defense. They know we are in their systems too and, if they hit us here, we turn the lights off in Moscow.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Easterly, the CISA director, acknowledged that progress on transparency was still underway but the fear of tit-for-tat attacks had held some chaos at bay.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere is some fear of escalation,\u201d she said. \u201cAre there still people who are going to their lawyers first and foremost? Yes. But we\u2019re starting to break through on the understanding of a threat to one is a threat to all.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ft.com\/\">\u00a9 2023 The Financial Times Ltd<\/a>. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ft.com\">All rights reserved<\/a>. Not to be redistributed, copied, or modified in any way.<\/em><\/p>\n<p> READ MORE <a href=\"https:\/\/packetstormsecurity.com\/news\/view\/34953\/Cybersecurity-Experts-Say-The-West-Has-Failed-To-Learn-Lessons-From-Ukraine.html\">HERE<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>READ MORE HERE&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":53442,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"colormag_page_layout":"default_layout","footnotes":""},"categories":[277],"tags":[10656],"class_list":["post-53441","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-cybersecurity-blogs","tag-headlinehackerusarussiacyberwarconferenceukraine"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.8 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Cybersecurity Experts Say The West Has Failed To Learn Lessons From Ukraine 2026 | 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