{"id":48537,"date":"2022-09-21T13:15:18","date_gmt":"2022-09-21T13:15:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/packetstormsecurity.com\/news\/view\/33860\/Cyber-Firms-Explain-Their-Ongoing-Hacker-Group-Name-Game.html"},"modified":"2022-09-21T13:15:18","modified_gmt":"2022-09-21T13:15:18","slug":"cyber-firms-explain-their-ongoing-hacker-group-name-game","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.threatshub.org\/blog\/cyber-firms-explain-their-ongoing-hacker-group-name-game\/","title":{"rendered":"Cyber Firms Explain Their Ongoing Hacker Group Name Game"},"content":{"rendered":"<div><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/images.axios.com\/a5fdAbZ4XT_rDSSks54EYI99hLA=\/0x0:1920x1080\/1366x768\/2022\/09\/19\/1663599558676.jpg\" class=\"ff-og-image-inserted\"><\/div>\n<p>No matter how confusing it gets to refer to the same Russian hacker group by a handful of different names \u2014 Cozy Bear, Nobelium, APT29 and so on \u2014 don&#8217;t expect the private companies behind those monikers to give them up anytime soon. <\/p>\n<p><strong>The big picture: <\/strong>Naming conventions for state-backed hacking groups vary from technical, advanced persistent threat (APT) group numbers to whimsical, animal-based names, making it difficult for people outside of cybersecurity research to understand which hackers do what.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Take one well-known Russian cyber espionage group: Mandiant researchers refer to it as APT29, CrowdStrike researchers call it Cozy Bear, and Microsoft named it Nobelium.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Driving the news: <\/strong>Several cyber threat intelligence firms published research about Iranian group Charming Kitten earlier this month, but each company used a different name to identify the group \u2014 renewing questions about why researchers don&#8217;t standardize naming conventions.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Between the lines:<\/strong> Part of this is due to marketing, cyber researchers tell Axios. <\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>It&#8217;s a reputational win if a cyber threat intelligence firm is able to get its naming convention into the mainstream.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Yes, but:<\/strong> Five major threat intel firms tell Axios that even if their marketing teams weren&#8217;t involved, they would still have these different names because they all have varying visibility into hackers&#8217; activities.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>&#8220;There&#8217;s not always going to be a one-to-one match for how they see the threat and how I see the threat,&#8221; says Jeremy Dallman, senior director at Microsoft Threat Intelligence Center. <\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>At Mandiant, <\/strong>cyber espionage researcher Benjamin Read tells Axios, they stick with the technical APT numbers to allow for more precision in their naming conventions.<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>The company has a list of more than 4,000 hacking group names.<\/li>\n<li>Mandiant also has a core team of three or four employees who review these naming conventions as they learn about the tools and tactics those groups use.<\/li>\n<li>Having super-precise identifications also helps Mandiant in its work with government investigators, Read says.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Other firms opt to create unique,<\/strong> memorable names for each group. <\/p>\n<p><span id=\"midStoryAd\" data-ad-status=\"AD\"><\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Microsoft picks names from the periodic table. <\/li>\n<li>CrowdStrike gives Chinese state groups a name with &#8220;Panda&#8221; in it, Russian state groups get a &#8220;Bear&#8221; name, Iranian groups have &#8220;Kitten&#8221; names, and North Korean group are &#8220;Chollima.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>Broadcom&#8217;s Symantec uses names of insects. <\/li>\n<li>Palo Alto Networks names groups after constellations.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>While those naming conventions<\/strong> might seem silly, companies have increasingly started relying on their own naming conventions to differentiate what they&#8217;re able to confirm on their own. <\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Palo Alto Networks unveiled its own naming conventions in July to better highlight what infrastructure, techniques and tools they can see hackers using, says Ryan Olson, the company&#8217;s vice president of threat intelligence. <\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>The intrigue:<\/strong> Each company says standardization would be impossible because of how variable their visibility is and how complex the threat landscape has become. <\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Olson relates the problem to the old tale of a group of visually impaired people trying to identify an elephant: Everyone thinks the animal is a different thing because they can only touch one part of it, like its ear or its tail. <\/li>\n<li>&#8220;Because the universe is always changing and our views are always changing, it would be really hard to be constantly trying to adapt that across multiple vendors,&#8221; Dallman says.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><em>Sign up for Axios\u2019 cybersecurity newsletter Codebook<\/em> <em><a class=\"gtmContentClick\" 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