{"id":33513,"date":"2020-02-25T15:03:05","date_gmt":"2020-02-25T15:03:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.threatshub.org\/blog\/apple-tries-to-have-virnetx-vpn-patent-ruling-overturned-again-us-supremes-say-no-again\/"},"modified":"2020-02-25T15:03:05","modified_gmt":"2020-02-25T15:03:05","slug":"apple-tries-to-have-virnetx-vpn-patent-ruling-overturned-again-us-supremes-say-no-again","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.threatshub.org\/blog\/apple-tries-to-have-virnetx-vpn-patent-ruling-overturned-again-us-supremes-say-no-again\/","title":{"rendered":"Apple tries to have VirnetX VPN patent ruling overturned again, US Supremes say no&#8230; again"},"content":{"rendered":"<div><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/regmedia.co.uk\/2019\/04\/30\/shutterstock_eyeroll.jpg\" class=\"ff-og-image-inserted\"><\/div>\n<p>The <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.supremecourt.gov\/search.aspx?filename=\/docket\/docketfiles\/html\/public\/19-832.html\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">United States Supreme Court has kicked out<\/a> Apple&#8217;s attempt to overturn a judgement in one of the cases in its 10-year patent fight with VirnetX.<\/p>\n<p>The Supremes rejected Apple&#8217;s petition for a judicial review in a bid to overrule the 2016 decision of a lower court, which awarded VirnetX $302m, which later rose to $439.8m in damages, fees and interest for Apple&#8217;s use of its patents.<\/p>\n<p>Apple had <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.supremecourt.gov\/DocketPDF\/19\/19-832\/130852\/20200204103004703_200201a%20Reply%20for%20e-filing.pdf\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">argued<\/a> (PDF) earlier this month that the &#8220;Federal Circuit has created a gaping loophole that facilitates massive damages in patent cases where the damages claims are based on prior licenses&#8221; \u2013 in essence saying that VirnetX had overvalued the inventions to the court.<\/p>\n<p>Kendall Larsen, VirnetX CEO and president, said in <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.virnetx.com\/virnetx-triumphs-in-440-million-suit-as-supreme-court-rejects-apples-appeal\/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">a statement<\/a>: &#8220;It has taken us 10 long years, 4 successful jury trials, 2 successful Appellate Court rulings and a favorable Supreme Court decision to get here.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Larsen stressed that his firm is not just a patent troll farm or a beanfeast for IP lawyers.<\/p>\n<p>He said: &#8220;We are a small company with valuable security technology. The inventors of that technology have senior level positions at VirnetX. It has always been our objective to create our own products with our proprietary technology. Unfortunately, when other companies are using your technology without permission, you must take action to protect that company asset. We have always believed that we were in the right with our court actions against Apple. Four juries and countless judges agree.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We believe that our technology provides an important security feature in some Apple products especially the iPhone. The jury award we received and confirmed by Federal judges, is less than a quarter of one per cent of the cost of an iPhone. We believe this amount is more than fair considering the importance of Internet security.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>There are actually two separate cases brought against Apple by the firm. The <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.co.uk\/2018\/04\/11\/apple_virnetx\/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">first<\/a> resulted in a $503m verdict for VirnetX, which Apple is currently leading through the appeals court. There&#8217;s a breakdown of the specific technologies under question <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.co.uk\/2019\/01\/29\/apple_fifth_facetime_appeal\/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The dispute over the patents has seen Apple go to extreme lengths \u2013 including <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.co.uk\/2019\/02\/27\/apple_texas_retail_stores_patents\/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">closing retail stores<\/a> in the eastern district of Texas.<\/p>\n<p>It also <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.co.uk\/2018\/09\/20\/apple_facetime_lawsuit\/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">re-engineered its video conferencing software<\/a> FaceTime and switched it off for anyone who declined the update \u2013 which led to a class-action case.<\/p>\n<p>It stopped FaceTime working as a peer-to-peer product and instead calls went via a relay run by Akamai in order to avoid the relevant patents.<\/p>\n<p>Apple <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.co.uk\/2012\/11\/07\/apple_loses_patent_case_facetime\/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">first lost against VirtnetX<\/a> in eastern Texas in 2012, when the company was awarded $386m.<\/p>\n<p>In 2013 <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theregister.co.uk\/2013\/02\/27\/apple_fails_to_reduce_damages\/\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">it lost an appeal<\/a> of that decision which it claimed was excessive and saw the award increased.<\/p>\n<p>Shares of Apple took a gut punch earlier this week as it copped to possible impacts from the novel coronavirus on its revenues.<\/p>\n<p>Apple did not respond to our emails asking for comment on the verdict. \u00ae<\/p>\n<p class=\"wptl btm\"><span>Sponsored:<\/span> <a href=\"https:\/\/go.theregister.co.uk\/tl\/1889\/-8120\/detecting-cyber-attacks-as-a-small-to-medium-business?td=wptl1889\">Detecting cyber attacks as a small to medium business<\/a><\/p>\n<p>READ MORE <a href=\"https:\/\/go.theregister.co.uk\/feed\/www.theregister.co.uk\/2020\/02\/25\/supreme_court_apple_virnetx_patent_appeal\/\">HERE<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Still not the last word for VirnetX after 10-year fight The United States Supreme Court has kicked out Apple&#8217;s attempt to overturn a judgement in one of the cases in its 10-year patent fight with VirnetX.\u2026 READ MORE HERE&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":33514,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"colormag_page_layout":"default_layout","footnotes":""},"categories":[63],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-33513","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-the-register"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.8 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Apple tries to have VirnetX VPN patent ruling overturned again, US Supremes say no... again 2026 | ThreatsHub Cybersecurity News<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"ThreatsHub Cybersecurity News | ThreatsHub.org | Cloud Security &amp; 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